tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702244474212352064.post4660460158072765993..comments2023-10-10T03:45:54.001-07:00Comments on The Big Idea: 7 Christian Objections to the Existence of Aliens--posed and answeredCaptain Travishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951843520672985269noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702244474212352064.post-27369263811834875742019-10-22T14:04:38.409-07:002019-10-22T14:04:38.409-07:00I just saw this comment, well over a year after yo...I just saw this comment, well over a year after you made it--my apologies. But the first of these passages, Acts 17:24-26, simply states that God has put human beings on the Earth and set where they will live there. That doesn't say all human beings live there. Isaiah 45:18, simply states the Earth was made to be inhabited--which doesn't mean it is the only place made to be inhabited.<br /><br />Only Psalm 115:16 is any problem at all, because it says the heavens are the Lord's but the Earth he has given to mankind. But you could say this isn't talking about the physical heavens, but rather heaven in a spiritual sense. Certainly it is true that God is also to be found on Earth...Captain Travishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951843520672985269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702244474212352064.post-18693789163935204682018-05-15T02:41:13.514-07:002018-05-15T02:41:13.514-07:00Hey there! For the past 3 years, I have been readi...Hey there! For the past 3 years, I have been reading a lot of Star Wars fanfiction and have been thinking of doing some of my own. For the issue of aliens, I have gone with your 2nd explanation of humanoid aliens being descended from Adam and Eve. But some Christians interpret Acts 17:24-26, Isaiah 45:18, and Psalm 115:16 to rule out human life on other planets. How would you respond to this?PRgirl1294https://www.blogger.com/profile/17851850537996919465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702244474212352064.post-46516156683267001442014-08-07T12:11:53.105-07:002014-08-07T12:11:53.105-07:00Greg, 1. You would not say that when Jesus died fo...Greg, 1. You would not say that when Jesus died for the sins of the world that the death was really applied to all human beings. No, I know from your theology that you would say He really died for the sins of the elect. So when you see references to "ALL" as in I John 2;2, you would say that it only refers (or applies) to the elect, even though it says Jesus died for the world. So if you are capable of considering references to the created world Jesus died for being limited, why is it impossible that the aliens could not have been created without sin, even if in this otherwise corrupted universe? So then the Biblical references to "ALL" creation in sin would refer just to the parts that have been corrupted...just like you'd say I John 2:2 only applies to salvation for the elect, even though it says "world."<br /><br />2. There are several weird and imaginative ways aliens could be descended from Adam and not be human--or not seem human to us.<br /><br />3. It is not unthinkable to me that God could have allowed aliens not related to Adam to have been corrupted by Adam's sin. Strange--unexpected. But not unthinkable. Certainly no moreso than what you believe--that God picks some to be saved with absolutely no preconditions whatsoever. And picked them long before they ever existed.<br /><br />So, reviewing my 1, 2, 3, I think there could be aliens that have never known sin (we may not see them until heaven though--probably not) (1). I think there could be what we would call and/or consider aliens that are really descendants of Adam (2), and I think it is not impossible Adam's sin could have affected the entire universe, changing the nature of aliens that never heard of him (3) (though I consider that to be unlikely to be honest).Captain Travishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951843520672985269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702244474212352064.post-53582580966333613592014-08-07T10:57:29.531-07:002014-08-07T10:57:29.531-07:00The following is copied and pasted from a conversa...The following is copied and pasted from a conversation I had couple years ago about this. It is the substance of two comments:<br />====================================================================<br />Animal life is not subject to the Adamic covenant as only man is a moral agent bearing the image of the creator God. The whole creation fell in Adam and groans awaiting the redemption of the sons of men (Romans 8:18ff). This means there cannot be moral agents bearing the image of God but not descended from Adam or else God has cursed innocent intelligent moral life by sheer caprice. A thing unthinkable of the just and holy God who reveals Himself in the bible.<br /><br />If there are intelligent moral agents not descended from Adam and not under his curse on other planets then the “creation itself” would NOT need to “be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.” (8:21 NASB) Not all of it anyway and not the highest part, us. Is there life on other planets? Bottom line? Animals maybe (and even that’s doubtful biblically speaking), but there CANNOT be intelligent morally accountable life anywhere in this creation except dear old earth.<br /><br />Also If there IS life anywhere but here, is it amoral low intelligence animal life? WE will have to find IT. IT will never come to US. ET was cute and close encounters a cool flick but if we are to take our scriptures seriously they are literally just movies.<br /><br /><strong>Romans 8:<br />18-For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19-For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. 20-For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21-that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22-For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. 23-And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24-For in this hope we were saved. Now hope that is seen is not hope. For who hopes for what he sees? 25-But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience.</strong><br />All of the vast cosmos, “the creation itself”, “ALL the creation” (πᾶσα ἡ κτίσις) fell in Adam who was it’s covenant representative. In some eschatological sense the now cursed creation will be glorified with us through the redemptive work of Christ. If there are moral agents anywhere who are not sons of Adam then they have been capriciously and hence unjustly “subjected to futility”. An impossibility with a flawlessly just God.<br /><br />If there are moral agents anywhere but earth that have NOT been “subjected to futility” then this passage is a lie. Another impossibility. Therefore, there are no moral agents anywhere except earth and unless someone is wiling to posit the notion of beings capable of space exploration who are nonetheless not moral agents THEY will never find US if they exist.<br />Tiribulushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14920857361547073318noreply@blogger.com